MAJOR SPOILERS HERE!
(and thanks to Phelim O'Neill for the mouth-chests.)
THE EXPOSITION
Hello, my name is MEW and I'm going to be the heroine of your film, which is why there's a scene near the beginning (I don't think it's in Antarctica, but I missed that bit because of the adolescents with ADD) where I'm doing palaeontology-type things. It's so you know who I am. And that's what was missing in the 1982 film - I don't think you ever got properly introduced to those guys, they never ever actually said Hi, I'm a chopper pilot, or Hi, I'm a dog handler, or a geologist, or radio operator or whatever; you just see them doing whatever it is they do, so that's probably a bit hard for audiences to grasp, they need to be told stuff like that, over and over again. And you definitely need to know I'm a palaeontologist, because otherwise you might mistake me for a schoolgirl. Yes, I'm that young. Hey, I could almost be just out of kindergarten! But be thankful you've got me instead of some old woman who might be better qualified and have more field experience, but who hey, wouldn't be nearly as HOT and appeal to the young male demographic.Also we get introduced to Bad Scientist Guy (a descendant of the Bad Scientist in Christian Nyby's 1951 The Thing From Another World who wears a roll-neck sweater and wants to communicate with the creature, instead of killing it). Bad Scientist Guy says, "I need a palaeontologist." Which is what I am, I think we may have established that already, but we should probably establish it again because it's a difficult concept. And I say something like, "I need to know a little more about this," and I think there's a bit more explanation here in case spectators came in late and missed the earlier scene where some Norwegian guys find something in the ice in Antarctica, and so we set everything up again and hint that Bad Scientist is really excited about it. You can't explain these things too many times, especially if there are adolescents with ADD running all over your cinema.
And then we get the journey to the camp in the helicopter. Just so we know these guys are helicopter pilots. I mean, the 1982 film jumped straight in without any of this useful scene-setting. And where's the fun in that?
THE FEMALE CHARACTERS
The 1982 film didn't have any female characters at all (unless you count Kurt Russell's computer chess game which had a female voice) so obviously that had to change. And I know it's 1982 and all that, but audiences like their female characters not just to be cute but also to be smart and kickass, like Ellen Ripley in the Alien films. I know in Alien it was established early on that she was second-in command on the Nostromo and anyway, that was the Future, but I don't see why we shouldn't retrofit those non-sexist attitudes on to a bunch of manly Norwegians in 1982 who have been holed up in an isolated place without sex.I realise that in real life, the best-case scenario would be them expecting me to make the tea all the time, and the worst-case scenario would be the sort of unpleasant misogyny routinely dished out to the heroine of George Romero's Day of the Dead. And it's quite likely at least one of those guys, back in 1982, would normally have tried to feel me up or made sexist or condescending or even threatening remarks. But hey, we've got a good old-fashioned monster mash-up here, so why worry? These men will realise straightaway that even I look like a 15-year old schoolgirl I'm actually very capable and smart and know better than they do, so every time I say anything they'll all shut up and pay attention, and they'll take everything I say very seriously, even if it does sound outlandish, because I'm so smart it takes me only a fraction of the time it took Blair and the others to work out what was going on in the 1982 film, and so the rugged Norwegian guys will be happy to let me take over as a leader and order them around when there are Things on the loose and people start killing each other. Put a flamethrower in my hands (which I immediately know how to use even though I am, as has already been explained, a palaeontologist) and I, MEW, am a perfectly acceptable substitute for Kurt Russell. Even though I may look like a 15-year-old schoolgirl.
Oh there's a weepy Norwegian woman in there too. Just in case you might be tempted to think I'm a token female or anything.
THE MALE CHARACTERS
The male characters in the 1982 film were far too dissimilar. And where's the fun in that? Surely it's much cleverer to have them all look identical, blond and bearded and with no discernible personalities, thus making a pertinent point about human beings all being the same even before they get Thinged. For a while, I thought I could tell Bad Scientist Guy apart from the others.... but no, he's blond and bearded too. Even Joel Edgerton, the only other cast member apart from me, MEW, who might conceivably be recognisable to people who watch a lot of films, is kind of blond and bearded. Thank God for the Afro-American helicopter pilot, who sticks out a mile. And me, MEW, of course. I stick out a mile too. Even though the men immediately accept me as one of them.THE THING
In the 1982 film, the Thing tended to lie doggo, trying to pass for human until attacked, when it erupted into ever more elaborate configurations to try and protect itself - dogheads splitting open when the other dogs growled at it, mouths opening up in stomachs to swallow the hands that were assaulting it with a defillibrator, legs extruding from a severed head to it could run away and hide. But where's the fun in that? The 2011 Thing sprouts mouth-chests at the drop of a hat, even when it's not being directly threatened. Then it chases people down corridors like the psychopath in a slasher movie. Then it sneaks around a kitchen like the velociraptors in Jurassic Park. Then, evidently having absorbed some Alien DNA, it sprouts sharp probosci on which to impale people, or sheds Facehugger-type appendages that drop on them from above. You see? MUCH more fun.
THE STUPIDITY
Oh yes, we're in Antarctica, so I think I'll just pop outside and wave at that helicopter WITHOUT PUTTING MY COAT ON. And oh, any one of you could be a Thing, so hey, let me just STICK MY HEAD IN ALL YOUR MOUTHS TO SEE IF YOU HAVE FILLINGS. Because, you know, Things can't reproduce metal or something, though they don't appear to have any problems with clothes or zips or whatever. And oh look here's an alien spaceship embedded in the ice, I think I'll just POP DOWN AND EXAMINE IT FROM REALLY CLOSE QUARTERS. And it doesn't matter if I fall into one of those open flaps into the ship because I can easily find my way out again before it takes off, or its engines ignite and burn me to a crisp or anything.COPYCAT BITS & CONTINUITY
This is supposed to be a prequel, not a remake. But why think of new stuff when the old stuff will do just as well? The melting ice block from the 1951 film. The malfunctioning flamethrower. The characters who are treated with suspicion because, logically, they shouldn't have been able to survive either the cold, or a helicopter crash, or both. The icky noise that alerts a character to someone going full-on Thing just behind him or her. Testing all the characters, one by one, for incipient signs of Thinginess. The poorly character who turns out to be not as poorly as you think.
You know when the Norwegians blow a big hole in the ice with their thermal charges? Well, none of that matches up. And how about when the Thing wakes up suddenly, as you do, and leaps out of the block of ice the Norwegians have taken back to their camp? Here we really get to show the Thing's uncanny abilities when it leaves a perfect oblong hole in the ice it has just leapt out of.
And oh look, here's a husky! Suddenly leaping out of a window! Now where did he come from? How come no-one had used the dogs to try to get away? Or the snowcats, come to that - there seem to be loads of them around. In fact, these guys seem fairly mobile.
Here's a thought for screenwriters: why not work on your characters a bit? (And that includes the Thing itself.) Don't just have things happen because you've seen them happening in another film.
That's not all, I could write about the CGI or the way no-one really looks cold the way the did in the 1982 film. But I can't be bothered to go on. I've already wasted too much time on this Thing.
ps I liked John Carpenter's The Thing so much I said so in a book which in 1997 was published in the BFI Modern Classics series.
Me writing a couple of years ago in the Guardian about the original critical reception of John Carpenter's The Thing.







what a great review of not only this but every other stupid horror remake and prequel made in recent years
ReplyDeletePerfect oblong hole in the ice, eh? Obviously it absorbed some IKEA cupboard unit DNA before crash-landing on Earth.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure Universal was happy to let Carpenter cast his mate Kurt Russell in the 1982 version because of his age and not because he was hot, male movie star or anything.
ReplyDeleteKurt Russell wasn't the first choice, as I remember, plus, come on, Carpenter pretty much took a risk on him putting him in stuff (and what's wrong with putting your friends in movies?)
ReplyDeleteHe wasn't that big of a star back then (if you could ever really consider him a big star), and his face is obscured by a massive beard for most of it, so... Yeah.
RARGH RARGH BAD COMMENTS ABOUT A GUY I THINK IS NICE THAT I WILL NEVER MEET RAAARGH
I love Kurt Russell. He is the Thinking Woman's action man. I have no complaints about him in The Thing AT ALL. He wasn't that big a star in 1982, but he had lashings of charisma, and was entirely credible as a maverick chopper pilot.
ReplyDeleteI have decided to go on a film-viewer's strike and refuse to see this prequel. It's extreme action but I can think of no alternative.
ReplyDeleteAnne, this may be my favorite quote of the year (and I've edited it a bit, so apologies): "Here's a thought for screenwriters: Don't just have things happen because you've seen them happening in another film." That says so much about what's wrong with mainstream movies.
ReplyDeleteSome of your points I agree with but others you seem to be making for no other reason than to make the film sound rubbish.
ReplyDeleteHow come no-one had used the dogs to try to get away? Or the snow cats, come to that >
I only saw one dog, were their others? Also they had quarantined themselves - and really where would they go to - they are in Antarctica?
And how about when the Thing wakes up suddenly, as you do - erm are you assuming you have the same physiology, strength, instincts as the an alien? Personally I struggle to get out of bed but you know an alien might not...
Thing sprouts mouth-chests at the drop of a hat, even when it's not being directly threatened. - erm its constantly under threat and it knows this (you have to assume its intelligent it has a space ship though to be fair many stupid people can drive...) and it makes sense for it to try and kill people when it has them alone in a cupboard - mouth chest or not. Isn't the best scenario for its survival to wipe out everyone there, then looking human make your way back to civilisation? After all no-one would believe in aliens.
Don't just have things happen because you've seen them happening in another film.
I think you might need to follow your own advice here.
Don't just write things because you've seen them written in other film critiques. Why?
Because your observations about the lead totally missed the mark - where you even watching the same film? I didn't think she was in any way hot - and neither did my friends. Also you never saw her semi naked (as you did Ripley in Alien) or do or say anything to make you think she in any way sexual or that she looked like a 15 year old school girl.
Some things I do agree on - Bad scientist guy - similar story to the same bad corporation guy we had in alien/aliens etc
They shouldn't have been able to survive either the cold - why? They were wearing snow gear and were used to living and operating in those climates - they lived there so why shouldn't they have the necessary gear and know how to survive?
And then we get the journey to the camp in the helicopter. Just so we know these guys are helicopter pilots. > personally I liked the science setting and getting to know the characters it gave me empathy towards them.
One hand you complain that they are pointing out the obvious then in the next paragraph you are whinging because they didn't show you the science where she asked one of the crew how to pull a trigger on a flame-thrower.
Things can't reproduce metal or something, though they don't appear to have any problems with clothes or zips or whatever. - I don't think they replicate clothing wouldn't there be plenty of clothing around the base that they'd just find and put on?
It’s easy to criticise and pull things apart but at the end of the day isn't it all about being entertained?
Couple of questions.
As someone that has been taken over by the Thing - do they not realise they have been taken over? It seems not as they seem in real pain when the transformation is happening and they turn - as they are usually screaming in pain and generally looking put out.
At the end of the film - while the woman is being attacked by the thing - if the other guy left is also the thing why didn't they gang up together and kill the woman?
Also why didn't the thing spit out the grenade but instead prance around for what seemed like an age - do they really dislike metal that much?
Argument here about whether the man at the end she flambéed was actually the thing or a man - I'm sure he had no ear ring.
I was pleasantly surprised by the film - I thought it would be quite poor compared to the original masterpiece but I actually enjoyed it.
Simon D - thanks for your comment, and fair points. I live in hope, and really wanted to like the film, but found it disappointing and sloppily conceived. I know it's all about being entertained - but I'm afraid I wasn't. There was not one plot development, line of dialogue or idea that I'd not seen been before - and done better - elsewhere, many times. Maybe my standards are higher than yours? Or maybe I've just been around longer and seen more films like this? Not saying that's a particularly good or marvellous thing - it's just a fact. And I'm old enough to know that in the early 1980s a woman as young as Winstead would NOT have been listened to, let alone taken seriously, in a virtually all-male setting - especially one as testosterone-filled as an Antarctic base where the men already knew each other. I think the film-makers could have done something interesting with this - as George Romero did in Day of the Dead, or maybe (as you suggest) have the men ganging up against her - but instead they simply chose to ignore it, which to me was just not feasible and made the scenes in which the men all shut up and listened to her implausible. To me, this is just symptomatic of the way the film-makers just didn't bother to think anything through. Ditto the manifestations of the Thing itself, which seemed arbitrary and illogical. Out of interest, have you seen Carpenter's 1982 film?
ReplyDeleteBut I do take issue with your saying "Don't just write things because you've seen them written in other film critiques." I saw this film in Belgium, long before it had come out in the UK, and even then - as is my policy - I went out of my way NOT to read anything on the subject before watching and writing about it. Please provide examples of the reviews you think I've copied.
"I've just been around longer and seen more films like this?" Of course, this might just mean that I'm jaded. Which is nothing to be proud of.
ReplyDeleteI'm also somewhat jaded and live and breath horror films (hello! it's @bowendesign :P ), but I enjoyed this marmite movie despite myself. Some of the issues others have had I found somewhat ambiguous ie. the thing turning in the 'copter knew they were landing and possibly about to find out. I could even gloss over the somewhat unimaginitive thing-maws. Even thinking about it they could've been way more creepy if it didn't (and I'll agree on this after some thought) thing-out illogically and just ejected tentacles and dribbled disturbing yellow/green goo on people.
ReplyDeleteBut despite all the niggles I'm even suprised it came out and is as extreme as it is. We live in a time where movies like The Thing are both incredibly unpopular and when Hollywood hates anything that goes too far. It's the most weirdly insane Hollywood gore movie released in quite some time. For that I have to give it a tiny bit of respect outside of its remit as a slightly standard horror.
But having read the changes the studio forced upon the writer and director I do yearn for what could've been - a slow-burn movie that delved into more character and use of physical non-plasticky effects.
So, for me, a bit of a wasted effort, that I would've done differently, but I still enjoyed myself. Maybe some plucky soul will leak the original cut. It must exist somewhere!
Crikey there was some grammar/language fail of epic proportions in that post. Forgive me!
ReplyDeleteI too was intrigued with what the screenwriter had to say (here's the link for anyone who hasn't seen it - http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/26758 ) and find it interesting that his original screenplay did indeed seem to address many of the points that annoyed me in the film, only for changes to be imposed after test screenings. TEST SCREENINGS FFS - who needs them? If you try to please all the people all the time you just end up with pablum. Having said which, I take your point about the prequel being more extreme and imaginative than most standard Hollywood horror fare nowadays. I guess the Carpenter film is a hard act to follow, and even though I tried not to have impossible expectations, I'm sure that if I'd come to this film without having seen the 1982 one I would have thought more highly of it.
ReplyDeleteHi people. If you read the story original Who Goes Here? or saw the Carpenter film (and I'm with Anne on this, it was better by a mile) - then check out Peter Watt's award winning story "The Things". Seems to be on http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts_01_10/ or just search on Google.
ReplyDeleteAt the end of my first week at university, Winter 1982, I went with a friend to a local cinema and saw John Carpenter’s ‘The Thing’. Nearly thirty years later I can remember the feelings of genuine dread and disquiet I felt as well as the moments of sheer terror. The sled dog ‘reveal’ was horrifying. The poor guys tied to their chairs while Palmer erupted into ‘Not Palmer’ was beyond words like exciting or gripping or intense. The film was an amazing emotional experience that was deeply thrilling and I still talk about it as one of the most memorable of my cinema going experiences. Indeed, apart from a single viewing of ‘The Exorcist’ (which I’ve not had the guts to watch again - sorry Dr Kemode) I’ve never been as genuinely scared shitless at the movies as I was when I first saw ‘The Thing’.
ReplyDeleteI think we have to take it as read that this prequel was unlikely to match the Carpenter version. The ‘Thingness’ of the Thing itself is already very familiar to us. Doing a prequel at the Norwegian base was only ever likely to fill in a few blanks in the story. My expectations were not high and I went to the cinema last November thinking I would enjoy the connections with Carpenter’s and see if the new guys were able to generate any of the original’s sense of dread. Your point that, “if I'd come to this film without having seen the 1982 one I would have thought more highly of it” is probably true. I overheard other audience members at the prequel screening saying they were very tense so it did seem to work. Blushing with embarrassment, I’ll admit that I was entertained and I thoroughly enjoyed myself. I take onboard all of your criticisms above and agree that the prequel fails in these respects. It is disappointing that this isn’t an intelligent movie. It does have the horrid mark of ‘Hollywood’ upon it. But I still enjoyed it as a schlocky return to Antartica and a 1950s monster movie sensibility. I love monster movies. I bet you do too. Come on, tell me one thing you liked. How about the moment the stumpy horrid Norwegian thing fused its face to it’s victim. Didn’t it make you think of Copper’s question to MacReady, “Is that a man in there?” There must have been some pleasure to be made by references like the axe in the door or the big empty ice block or the suicide. The squelchy reveal of the Norwegian woman or the face rupturing of the guy on the helicopter were quite good. Weren’t they? Come on Ms Billson. Did you like any of it? A critic in ‘The Sydney Morning Herald’ pointed out that the thing is no respecter of human anatomy. The monsters were great.
In the special features there are some very interesting discussions of the prosthetic and animatronic devices used to create things like the two face and the malevolent forearm and we get to have a good look at them. They are very like Rob Bottin’s creations and have a pleasing physicality. I don’t understand why the final cut of the film seems to have used almost entirely CGI monsters that look ‘soggy’ and cartoonish at times.
ReplyDeleteI suppose they key difference between the two films is that Carpenter was able to provoke terror and disquiet while the new version was mainly about enjoying, as Mr Bowen suggests above, a jar of Marmite or some other minor nourishing snack. Significantly, the one moment in the prequel when the hair on the back of my neck stood on end occurred during the end credits sequence when Ennio Morricone’s pulsing electronic score started-up as the two Norwegians set-off after that darned dog.
I have come to your discussion quite late but the Blu-ray version has just been released here in Sydney and I’ve been able to see the film a few more times (twice in a row in a single sitting in fact!) and watch all the special features, extended scenes etc etc. You may be horrified to learn that they are also marketing the Blu-ray (I desperately want to correct that spelling of BLUE!) as a double pack with Carpenter’s film. I wonder what an intelligent, critically thinking viewer would make of it if their first experience of both movies was to watch the prequel first and then Carpenter’s? There would be some narrative logic in the creatures’ behaviour: it is awoken by a drill bit inserted somewhere nasty and is mightily pissed off; it starts going about murdering it’s assailants in a very open way; this approach fails so it goes off to be more stealthy at the American base. But I know I am sounding like an apologist for a so-so film attaching itself in a vulgar, thing-like way, to a brilliant one. But I still enjoyed it. I guess I’m just a middle aged fan boy who loves his monster movies. I must try to be more discerning, I know.
Thank you for your kind response to my random Tweets and for your lovely BFI monograph.
Thanks for taking the trouble to post so thoughtfully. Did you read the comment above that I posted on December 9th? I find it quite difficult to think of things in The Thing prequel that I liked because, for me, the film fell at the first hurdle, which was basic screenplay - things were inserted not because they made sense or because characters really would behave that way in that situation, but because the film-makers had already seen something like it in Carpenter's film (or other films) and just wanted to reproduce the effect without doing any of the groundwork to make it work.
ReplyDeleteThough MEW was miscast (too young! - see above) I thought she did a decent job, though none of the other actors had much of an opportunity to distinguish themselves. I should emphasise that I'm not biased against sequels/prequels/remakes per se, and indeed have enjoyed several that many others have not (eg Ghostbusters 2, Jurassic Park: The Lost World, Iron Man 2, Alien: Resurrection, 28 Weeks Later etc). So if I'd seen ANYTHING at all I'd liked in The Thing prequel, I would have grabbed on to it and hugged it with all my might.
I liked that it wasn't played for laughs.
I hated the CGI. Thought it just looked awful and neutralised what might have been some imaginative ideas had the effects not been digital. I just can't take effects like that seriously.
Unfortunately, though I am VERY susceptible to fear and tension, I can't remember feeling either at any point during the film. Mostly what I felt was a sort of deadening tedium as the plot went through motions that were either entirely predictable or just total missteps (the monster behaving like a velociraptor in the kitchen). I really didn't care about things being put into position for the Carpenter film; I found the two films so different in quality that it was hard for me to think of them in the same context.
There. I think I've already expounded more energy on the prequel than I want to. I actually don't think it's an interesting enough film to give as much consideration as I've already given it. I can't even be bothered to work out in any more detail where I think they went wrong - I would rather apply my energy towards analysing something I enjoy, or which challenges me in some way.
Anyhow, thanks again everyone here for taking the trouble to post your thoughts - much appreciated.
Fair enough. Yes, I did read the other posts and I think you are quite right. Overall the prequel was a missed opportunity. However, It will become one of my guilty pleasures. Love, love, love some of those monsters. Tragic, I know. :)
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